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  Survey: How long were you in the cult vs what year you were baptized

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  2. friends

  hi people,.

  i want as much data as possible on the effect of the internet on the time captured by the cult.. please answer the three following questions about yourself or about someone you know (for example, if your parents or grandparents were jw's and left).

  1) were you raised as a jw, or did you convert?.

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  Old Goat

  1) Were you raised as a JW, or did you convert?

  Convert

  Still nominally a Witness. Left mentally in 2005.

  Fifty-seven years. [Yes, I’m older than dirt.]
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  Charles Taze Russell

  by Doubtfully Yours in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone know where is the grave of this person?.

  is it an urban legend that his grave stone is a pyramid?.

  would love to confirm this.. dy.

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  Old Goat

  Photo of Russell's headstone is here:

  http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/search?q=find+a+grave
  
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  If the Watchtower Society Had done this

  by Old Goat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we've had a few threads about schulz and de vienne's books and historical research.

  if the watchtower had done done something similar and as honestly, i might still be a witness.

  shame on them for hiding history.. a rough draft of part of schulz and de vienne's next book is here:.

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  Old Goat

  We've had a few threads about Schulz and de Vienne's books and historical research. If the Watchtower had done done something similar and as honestly, I might still be a Witness. Shame on them for hiding history.

  A rough draft of part of Schulz and de Vienne's next book is here:

  
  

  http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/
  

  
  
  
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  Daily Manna book - anybody have one?

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the russell days they had a 'daily manna' book which had a daily text, as well as a page to list all your friends birthdays.

  they had the same 365 daily texts every year.

  when was is replaced by the current daily text?

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  Old Goat

  It was replaced by yearbook comments in with the 1927 Yearbook, published late in 1926.
  
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  Daily Manna book - anybody have one?

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the russell days they had a 'daily manna' book which had a daily text, as well as a page to list all your friends birthdays.

  they had the same 365 daily texts every year.

  when was is replaced by the current daily text?

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  Old Goat

  https://archive.org/details/dailyheavenlyman00seib
  
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  People's Pulpit?

  by bcpenney in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i believe there was a magazine or newspaper published during russell's time called the people's pulpit.

  i'm specifically trying to locate vol.

  can anyone point me in the right direction?

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  Old Goat

  Penny,

  I don't know of any place on line you can find these. What picture were you looking for?
  
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  People's Pulpit?

  by bcpenney in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i believe there was a magazine or newspaper published during russell's time called the people's pulpit.

  i'm specifically trying to locate vol.

  can anyone point me in the right direction?

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  Old Goat

  
  
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  People's Pulpit?

  by bcpenney in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i believe there was a magazine or newspaper published during russell's time called the people's pulpit.

  i'm specifically trying to locate vol.

  can anyone point me in the right direction?

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  Old Goat

  People's Pulpit v 2 no. 1 has two sermons by Russell, Gathering the Lord's Jewels and Thrust in Thy Sickle. These are followed by an attack on 7th Day Adventism. There are no photos.
  
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  When Did Higher Education Become Taboo?

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been reading about the early history of russelites/jws and in the beginning, it seems the organization was formed and headed by quite a few educated people.

  lawyers, doctors, businessman.

  you could buy voting rights within the organization for $1000, which by today's standard would be somewhere between $15,000 and $20,000, something most of us do not have on hand, unless you are highly educated and/or wealthy.

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  Old Goat

  After 1884 a cumulative ten dollar (not $1000) donation gave you one share. You had to ask for it. Few voted it.

  Anti-intellectualism stems from the Russell era. Russell drew educated people to himself, but the Watch Tower was filled with statements against a false education that spawned an anti-Bible stance. Most of this was directed at Clergy. And, if you read late 19th Century religious matter, you might find some justification for this. The clergy were a sorry, self-entitled bunch.

  Anti-Intellectualism developed more fully under Rutherford. It is a way to minimize contrary belief.
  
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  Schulz and de Vienn

  by Old Goat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  terry started a thread on schulz and de vienne's book, separate identity, which you should read.

  they've posted a partial, rough draft of their current work here:

  http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.

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  Old Goat

  Terry started a thread on Schulz and de Vienne's book, Separate Identity, which you should read. They've posted a partial, rough draft of their current work here:

  http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/